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PUCKNRUSH:
One common characteristic I see, throughout the entire NHL, and present in ALL the teams that play, is a higher presence of random, more chaotic, general play, marked by unplanned spontaneity, where more of the positive, AND negative, results appear as if they’ve just been “happened into”, as opposed to resulting from a well planned execution of a play!


Its not a coincidence that we see a de-emphasis on the implementation, and respect for, basic hockey fundamentals, ride, side by side, with these characteristics of the game NOW.


We see also, most teams, having to work on a variety of issues, throughout the season. These varied issues seem to rise up, often, out of nowhere, or for little reason, other than they are present!


I’ve noticed a loss in the number of teams not having a “solid rep”, that identifies an obvious good characteristic about them! At a minimum, the media may try to engage in giving a rep to a team, but I feel they have to stretch their case a bit to be believed!


As compared, as an example, to the reputation the Boston Bruins had years back, as a very physical team to play.
Now, it seems you have a situation, where teams can look physical, one night, soft, on another, speedy, super offensive, slow, gritty, WHATEVER, on any given night!
Certainly, not every team, all the time, but the fickleness of the games, is at a considerably higher degree than ever before!


Rush

PUCKNRUSH:
To follow up, I like Holtby enough.
I was surprised that he seemed to use today’s game style, as part of the reason he had a rough time in the last half of last years season.
Although that comment seemed uncharacteristic of Holtz, to me, I thought strongly that it was a pathetically weak excuse, as this situation is the same for ALL goalies, league wide!!


 I just chalked it off to maybe he had a lot of frustration, however, that statement would have been more understandable, had he said it during the season. Instead, he said it during the summer after we won the Stanley Cup!  Kinda weak on his part, albeit uncharacteristic for him, in his defense!


Rush

Maacoshark:

--- Quote from: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 19, 2018, 11:53:01 PM Eastern ---To follow up, I like Holtby enough.
I was surprised that he seemed to use today’s game style, as part of the reason he had a rough time in the last half of last years season.
Although that comment seemed uncharacteristic of Holtz, to me, I thought strongly that it was a pathetically weak excuse, as this situation is the same for ALL goalies, league wide!!


 I just chalked it off to maybe he had a lot of frustration, however, that statement would have been more understandable, had he said it during the season. Instead, he said it during the summer after we won the Stanley Cup!  Kinda weak on his part, albeit uncharacteristic for him, in his defense!


Rush

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    Actually I thought Holtby was too polite when he made those comments. He should have been ripping his team mates new asshole. They threw him under the bus and are doing it again this year.

PUCKNRUSH:

--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Thursday December 20, 2018, 07:37:45 AM Eastern ---    Actually I thought Holtby was too polite when he made those comments. He should have been ripping his team mates new asshole. They threw him under the bus and are doing it again this year.

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I believe, as Mickstix, says, that Holtz has had both great saves AND great blunders, this year, that have both WON, and LOST games for us. Hell, not just this year either!!
In all of the Trotz years, and this year, Holtby has had his ups and downs, like any goalie!


Holtby, or any starting goalie for that matter, would be an absolute fuckin’ idiot to start “ripping his team mates a new asshole”!  Are you KIDDING!!! It’s just not done, PERIOD!! True NHL professionals don’t publicly call out their team mates! The natural bonding, between players, and the required teamwork, to even play hockey, weigh so heavily against an individual player calling out ANY teammate!  And, if it DID happen, the team, coaches, and management would END IT, immediately!!


It is universally true in hockey, that successful teams win games throughout the season, in many ways! Sometimes the goalies stand on their heads, whether thrown under the bus or not, and sometimes teams win IN SPITE OF their goalies bad performance!! This is NHL Hockey 101! Including the Capitals!! Individual players to not call their fellow teammates out!  I’ve never even seen it happen, although I can’t say that it has NEVER happened! But it would be rare, awkward, and foolish!!




Rush

PUCKNRUSH:
Just to add a bit of context.


Holtby meant those comments as a response to what may have contributed to his bad play and goalie stat numbers, in the last half of the 2017 season, when he was pulled for Gruby, temporarily!


He made them, REFLECTING BACK, somewhere in the time period just before this season started, I believe, and also AFTER we had won the Stanley Cup!!


What do you think Holtby should have said???  (Holtby):...”Uh, I was replaced by Gruby, because of my bad performance numbers!!  They really weren’t my fault though, because Carlson, Kempny, Orlov, Nisky, Brooks, and the rest of the D, played like shit, and threw me under the bus”!! 😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣


Gimme a fuckin break!!! LMFAO!!


Rush



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