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The hypocrisy that is DoPS
Surreylily:
Nah! S'not gonna let me do it. Keeps inserting and rearranging stuff and then everything disappears............
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Friday December 07, 2018, 09:17:32 AM Eastern ---
It's just all the "Predatory/Avoidable" jargon bullshit they spew that pisses me off. If it applies to shit Wilson does, it should apply to everyone! It'd be great if we could say "Just don't suspend anyone for that shit" but we already know that ship has sailed, so equal/consistent discipline for everyone should be the next step, cause they aint going back on their narrative with Wilson.
And for anyone who thinks "It was nearly the same as the Seley hit" BULL-FUCKIN-LONEY!! (Properly spelled btw!) :rofl:
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As I said: It’s all just controlling the narrative for marketing.
By intentionally encouraging or even mandating inconsistency all precedent is distorted and useless. Useless for reality that is, but is excellent for marketing and continuing the process.
So is the DOPS inconsistenat? No. They are just a an arm of marketing and “suplimental entertainment” that uses subjectivity and inconsistency for this result
alta:
The issue is the inconsistency of the NHL that says they want to remove head injuries from the game. On October 14 the Panthers Matheson "slammed" the Canucks Petterson to ice, Petterson was not injured but Matheson got a 2 game suspension. On November 14 Morrisey slammed Oshie to the ice, with an immediate and obvious head injury. In the same game Kuzy was intentionally elbowed in the head with injury. Morrisey got a measly $8500 fine for causing a head injury and Tanev got off scot-free. On Dec 4 Willy got blindsided on an illegal play, it was a textbook late hit, and the result was a head injury. We all know had Willy been the one making the hit Willy would have gotten a couple days off, and that was before his suspension this year. The inconsistency from DoPS is well known....
https://www.arcticicehockey.com/2018/4/18/17251694/inconsistent-application-of-rules-hurts-players-winnipeg-jets-minnesota-wild-nhl-playoffs-2018-dops
http://hockeyexplorer.com/2018/01/17/tape2tape-coglianos-suspension-exemplifying-inconsistency/
This is a big problem for the game itself, and for the players whom the league feigns concern of. This problem will not be fixed unless there is enough stink raised about it that the league must fix it
PUCKNRUSH:
I’m aware that ONCE a suspension is issued, THEN, injury is allowed to be considered as a factor in the LENGTH of suspension!
I’m also aware that a player can receive suspension time for a hit, EVEN IF, the game referee misses it OR doesn’t call a penalty on the player during the game!
Since the above are both true, it SHOULD BE logical, that any player PENALIZED in a game, for an illegal or late hit, THAT CAUSES INJURY, (sufficient to cause the injured player to miss games), then THAT offending player, should receive a suspension! This is NOT the case, obviously, at DOPS! And I think it should be a rule! Here’s why:
In Reaves case, the type of hit, (shoulder to shoulder) was legal. The hit WAS obviously intentional, still no problem. Had the hit been one second earlier, before Willy got rid of the puck, even though Willy suffers injury, then there would have been NO PENALTY! Then it’s simply said that “this happens”, in hockey!
The whole issue, (and why Reaves got the major, and game misconduct penalties), was with the TIMING of the hit, obviously! It was LATE!
This is where the rules should call for suspension , because the hit WAS PENALIZED, AND the player suffered injury, to the degree that he will miss a game(s)!
I never realized this wasn’t a rule before! This incident illuminates a need for such a rule, to help define some badly needed consistency at DOPS!
If we’re going to have a softer NHL, and be asked to tolerate its ever growing pussification, then at least be consistent!
Rush
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: alta on Friday December 07, 2018, 01:00:57 PM Eastern ---The issue is the inconsistency of the NHL that says they want to remove head injuries from the game. On October 14 the Panthers Matheson "slammed" the Canucks Petterson to ice, Petterson was not injured but Matheson got a 2 game suspension. On November 14 Morrisey slammed Oshie to the ice, with an immediate and obvious head injury. In the same game Kuzy was intentionally elbowed in the head with injury. Morrisey got a measly $8500 fine for causing a head injury and Tanev got off scot-free. On Dec 4 Willy got blindsided on an illegal play, it was a textbook late hit, and the result was a head injury. We all know had Willy been the one making the hit Willy would have gotten a couple days off, and that was before his suspension this year. The inconsistency from DoPS is well known....
https://www.arcticicehockey.com/2018/4/18/17251694/inconsistent-application-of-rules-hurts-players-winnipeg-jets-minnesota-wild-nhl-playoffs-2018-dops
http://hockeyexplorer.com/2018/01/17/tape2tape-coglianos-suspension-exemplifying-inconsistency/
This is a big problem for the game itself, and for the players whom the league feigns concern of. This problem will not be fixed unless there is enough stink raised about it that the league must fix it
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The ship has all but sailed to fix the DOPS.
The root of all this, is the NHL believing, and siding with the vocal minority that physicality hurts sales, and speed and skill will sell more tickets. Which as ratings and fan satisfaction shows, is poor analysis turned into bullshit.
It is actually having the reverse effect that is intended as players get frustrated, reckless, lazy, and with little regard to immediate consequence. Doesn’t the Wheel Of Justice sound like a better option than getting embarrassed, and eating out of a straw for a few months?
Just look at the Kuzy, Oshie, and Wilson incidents. Did a series of those incidents like that , in that time that happen 20,15, even 10 years ago? Or would the hit that gave Wilson a 20 game suspension and the resulting injury have happened if that dumbass kept his head up?
These rules, the DPOS, and using CTE as an excuse, doesn’t work for anything but marketing,media, and talking points
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