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GDT#24 Capitals @ Islanders 7:00 p.m. Mon Nov 26, 2018 NBCSWA+, SN, MSG+
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Thursday November 29, 2018, 08:09:07 PM Eastern --- Ive never said plus/minus was a good stat but it is better than corsi. Rush do you realize that corsi is a similar stat except is uses shots for compared to shots against instead if goals. In the end they are both differential stats. Now ask yourself what's more important, shots attempted differential or goal differential? Pretty easy answer. Who gives a shit how many shots you have directed at the net. So what if throw 50 low quality shots on net every game if you can't score. In the end its the goal differential that matters.
And Corsi is not a possession stat. Its not even close.
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Maaco.
I'm really tryin with you, here, but this is like dealing with a turd that's slowly swirling down the bowl!!
+/- IS a Corsi-type stat, it is an individual hybrid form, developed FROM CORSI!!
And...YOO-HOO, HELLO, we both agree that it is a relatively insignificant stat!!
Now, enough of this crap!
If, your going to end your post with a chesty, testosterone-laden, comment, saying, "And Corsi is not a possession stat. It's not even close"
Then, take my darn bet, chicken shit!
Just returning the assertive energy back to you, with change for your dollar, my boy!
Maaco, assertive is OK. Assertive, and INCORRECT, is foolish!
Take my damn bet, or clam it, if you've got any testicles!! SIMPLE!
Rush
PUCKNRUSH:
Here Maaco, actually I'm going to hit the hay early! I'll save you a few bucks:
From the book, Hockey Analytics, Explained:
Corsi[/size]: You may have heard of terms like Corsi and/or Fenwick being thrown around before. These are core concepts that are fundamental to understanding what drives the play during a game. Basically, Corsi is an approximation of puck possession that measures the total shot attempts for your team, and against your team, and stats can be viewed for Corsi results when a specific player is on the ice.[/color]
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[/size]How about from Wikipedia:[/color]
[/size]Corsi. ... Corsi is used to approximate puck possession – the length of time a player's team controls the puck – and is typically measured as either a ratio (like plus-minus) of shot attempts for less shot attempts against, or as a percentage.[/color]
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[/size]Or this one, from the book, Understanding Hockey Analytics.[/color]
[/size] · [/color][/size]Corsi: the most popular advanced stat in the hockey blogosphere, Corsi is a possession metric developed by former Buffalo Sabres goaltending coach Jim Corsi.[/color]
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As of today's currency values, $100, U.S., is equal to $132.82 Canadian.
If your wife is up to it, you can take her to dinner, and use the cash that you would have lost, to offset the dinner bill, OR
Put the money towards your "I'm coming to D.C." fund, and start to make it happen!
You, DC, and I, can laugh over this shit by the time you get here!👍👍
Just don't claim that Corsi, is not a possession stat! Fair enough!!
Thank you.
Rush
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BlackIce:
Corsi may not matter as much when you have a team like the Caps whose offensive philosophy is that the quality of shots generated is more important than the quantity. To the extent that they are playing against teams who feel relatively less that way than they do, Corsi stats will be skewed against them.
+/- would be a great stat if each goal against were assigned as a -1 not to everyone, but instead, to everyone who made a documentable mistake that led to an opponent goal. And conversely, every goal for would be a +1 only for those people actively involved in driving the play that led to a goal being scored. In fact, I'll bet the Caps, and virtually all organizations, have at least some sense of this, in that they watch video to instruct players who made mistakes or didn't play the team system correctly, whether or not it led to a goal.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday November 29, 2018, 09:34:27 PM Eastern ---Here Maaco, actually I'm going to hit the hay early! I'll save you a few bucks:
From the book, Hockey Analytics, Explained:
Corsi: You may have heard of terms like Corsi and/or Fenwick being thrown around before. These are core concepts that are fundamental to understanding what drives the play during a game. Basically, Corsi is an approximation of puck possession that measures the total shot attempts for your team, and against your team, and stats can be viewed for Corsi results when a specific player is on the ice.
How about from Wikipedia:
Corsi. ... Corsi is used to approximate puck possession – the length of time a player's team controls the puck – and is typically measured as either a ratio (like plus-minus) of shot attempts for less shot attempts against, or as a percentage.
Or this one, from the book, Understanding Hockey Analytics.
· Corsi: the most popular advanced stat in the hockey blogosphere, Corsi is a possession metric developed by former Buffalo Sabres goaltending coach Jim Corsi.
As of today's currency values, $100, U.S., is equal to $132.82 Canadian.
If your wife is up to it, you can take her to dinner, and use the cash that you would have lost, to offset the dinner bill, OR
Put the money towards your "I'm coming to D.C." fund, and start to make it happen!
You, DC, and I, can laugh over this shit by the time you get here!👍👍
Just don't claim that Corsi, is not a possession stat! Fair enough!!
Thank you.
Rush
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Corsi is not a possession stat.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 04:58:37 PM Eastern --- Corsi is not a possession stat.
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:lol:
Pretty sure you missed the dead horse (the beaten one)
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