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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #21 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 08:57:45 PM Eastern »
Lol of course not. To tell you the truth if the season ended now he would be a Norris finalist. Could even win it. He has carried this dcore.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #22 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:03:08 PM Eastern »


WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #23 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:04:27 PM Eastern »
8 to 25 to 2 !!!!!!!
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #24 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:16:26 PM Eastern »
Ovi cost us that last goal. He can be a frustrating player.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #25 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:20:31 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #26 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:23:13 PM Eastern »
Caps should be on a pp, must’ve been 8 white sweaters out there
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #27 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:33:37 PM Eastern »
Been out and about all night but listening on the radio when driving. Good win for the boys tonight.
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #28 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:41:31 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #29 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:45:14 PM Eastern »
Very solid game. A lot of guys played well. Oshie still looks off. Carlson had a very good game. Pairing Djoos with Carlson was a great move. Right now Carlson is playing a's well as any dman in the league right now.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #30 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:50:16 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.


Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #31 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:06:45 PM Eastern »
Trotz is now 5th all time with wins
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #32 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:11:53 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.


Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.
   You single him out every game. I have also watched Carlson his entire career. He has had his ups and downs. But he is playing very well this year. Our best dman and it isn't even close. None of you guys will admit he is having a good year. When he does something good, which is quite often no one says a word. He makes a little mistake and you guys pounce on him. You even rip him when he did nothing wrong. Cut the guy some slack. Without him there is no way we are at the top of the division.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #33 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:21:55 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.


Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.
   You single him out every game. I have also watched Carlson his entire career. He has had his ups and downs. But he is playing very well this year. Our best dman and it isn't even close. None of you guys will admit he is having a good year. When he does something good, which is quite often no one says a word. He makes a little mistake and you guys pounce on him. You even rip him when he did nothing wrong. Cut the guy some slack. Without him there is no way we are at the top of the division.

I'm not saying he is bad, but he made a quite a few mistakes in an offensive zone, plus almost allowed 1:1 on our PP. 

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #34 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:25:47 PM Eastern »
Carlson catches flak because he's not that great at "defense".. He's an offensive defenseman, who's about to be paid in the 6-7 million dollar a year range, eat up a great deal of our cap (if he stays here) and just be a "good" defenseman.. He's like a great 3rd line forward, who gets some solid points but plays 200 feet.. Normally you'd love that guy! Except when the team offers him 7 million bucks a year for like 6-7 years..  :o

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #35 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:29:14 PM Eastern »
Devils head coach was upset in the lost game because the Caps has 6 guys on the ice for “the whole” play. I missed the question so I don’t know what play he was imagining but I know I saw 6-7 white sweaters on the ice at one time with no call
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #36 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:41:40 PM Eastern »
Carlson catches flak because he's not that great at "defense".. He's an offensive defenseman, who's about to be paid in the 6-7 million dollar a year range, eat up a great deal of our cap (if he stays here) and just be a "good" defenseman.. He's like a great 3rd line forward, who gets some solid points but plays 200 feet.. Normally you'd love that guy! Except when the team offers him 7 million bucks a year for like 6-7 years..  :o
   Carlson is fine defensively. If he was weak defensively they wouldnt be pairing him with Djoos who isn't a defensive defence man. Carlson's play has been a huge part of his success. If he was weak defensively he wouldn't be killing penalties. He wouldn't be on the ice when the game is on the line. Carlson is our best dman on the pp and pk. He is decent 5 on 5 as well. He is our best dman by a mile. You can't debate that.

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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #37 on: Saturday December 30, 2017, 11:24:02 PM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.

For the record, I thought Carlson played a great game.  He's also been very much improved and alert lately.    I only ever gave him grief for his occasional brain lockups.  He's for a long time now been a top defenseman, especially since he took Mike Green's spot on the PP and finally got the hang of those touch passes to Ovie's office.
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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #38 on: Sunday December 31, 2017, 09:11:59 AM Eastern »
74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
  After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.


Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.


I think the real issue is he’s being played and marketed as an “elite” Dman.  The result is a large amount of minutes (which is highly impressive and deservant of praise), that results in hes weakness being exposed, bad tendencies developed etc., more often that causes most of the distrust, disappointment and even dislike towards him.


While certainly and upper tier Dman, it is unreasonable and inaccurate to put him on the class of Burns, Dougherty, Keith, Gairdi, Webber, etc.


This ultimately comes down to management and the orginization asking fat to much of him.  Both to belong in that class and in the system.  Any criticism of him, should not that, and the lack of attention to the DCorps in general (note that most elite dman, have good DCorps around then too)


That being said, he is still young for a Dman.  Mike Green (who got it way worse than Carlson), played some of his best all around hockey this year significantly under the radar.  He (finally) became a very good all around Dman and his typical PP threat. 


So there is still time for Carlson to come around.  The issue is what cap space hit will he ask for and will they able to afford him and help for him.


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Re: GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
« Reply #39 on: Sunday December 31, 2017, 10:13:10 AM Eastern »
Devils head coach was upset in the lost game because the Caps has 6 guys on the ice for “the whole” play. I missed the question so I don’t know what play he was imagining but I know I saw 6-7 white sweaters on the ice at one time with no call
   The Caps had 6 players in the offensive zone on the Niskanen goal