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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #80 on: Friday November 02, 2018, 10:46:05 AM Eastern »
. . . glad I missed this one. . .


They might as well put an EA logo on the ice

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #81 on: Friday November 02, 2018, 11:09:51 AM Eastern »
Yeah the only big plus for me was Eller, Stephenson and our fourth line dominated them most of the game. Our top six gave up way too many changes, and most of our notable stars were not great defensively. It was a very weird game to watch because we had control of so much of that game for so long, and like many of our early games this season, we play smart/go for the kill and then just some boneheaded/weak plays late by key players leads to a loss.


The Domi goal is Holtby. Giving up that kind of shot late, boxing to the outside is fine. Holtby could see it, it bounced out of his glove and in. Hell even the tying goal is a battle in front that we should of had, but a greasy squeaker. Holtby otherwise though had a good night, so it's hard to criticize two weak goals when he was so stellar in other areas.


Reminds me of the Caps in the middle of last season tbh, not exactly slumping but not exactly breaking the bank either. The identity is there, they are playing to it for stretches of games, but when they lose it they do the literal slip on the banana peel and fall flat on their faces. Tough game to lose to be honest, and the boys still have some tinkering to do. But I do see glimpses of hope, we can say all we want about the teetering into the back n forth offensive chances or the EA equivalent, but for stretches of games we aren't that and we show flashes of the Cup team. But obviously, stretches aren't good enough and I think finding a consistent 60 minute game is probably going to be the Caps struggles for this season.

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #82 on: Friday November 02, 2018, 07:01:23 PM Eastern »
I'm trying not to care about these early season games.  I predicted they would be about 500 after 20 games and that looks to be accurate.  What struck me about this game was the lack of physicality which unfortunately has become the norm in the league over the last 3 years.  I can't think of one hard check by either team in this game.

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #83 on: Friday November 02, 2018, 07:10:13 PM Eastern »
  I miss the boring Barry Trotz system. This video hockey we are playing is a joke.

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #84 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 11:19:07 AM Eastern »
  I miss the boring Barry Trotz system. This video hockey we are playing is a joke.
Yep, as easy as it is to point at Reirdon, it is no secret that this style is what Ted a& Monumental Entertainment want, so he could very well just be trying to please them.


But either way, this team looks completely terrible

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #85 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 11:59:16 AM Eastern »
According to Rierden they are basically playing the same system as they did last season under Trotz but they are not executing.  Remember last season the Caps were not great defensively in the beginning of the year either.  It is not realistic to expect them to be playing at this point in time the same way they played in the playoffs last season.  It is much too early to be concerned . 

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #86 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 01:12:01 PM Eastern »
According to Rierden they are basically playing the same system as they did last season under Trotz but they are not executing.  Remember last season the Caps were not great defensively in the beginning of the year either.  It is not realistic to expect them to be playing at this point in time the same way they played in the playoffs last season.  It is much too early to be concerned .
it is extremely realistic, and should be expected and demanded.  There is no acceptable excuse for them not to, particularly after having such success. 

Really, how do you not expect Defending Champs to execute all year?

What is unrealistic, is taking for granted that just because a team that sucked defensively, was able to play acceptable D and ride a hot goalie to a Cup means that they are good enough, and the opposition will cower in fear of their “talent” this year they will win a Cup again, so who cares, the first quarter of the season is irrelevant.

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #87 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 01:16:25 PM Eastern »
According to Rierden they are basically playing the same system as they did last season under Trotz but they are not executing.  Remember last season the Caps were not great defensively in the beginning of the year either.  It is not realistic to expect them to be playing at this point in time the same way they played in the playoffs last season.  It is much too early to be concerned .
     Actually our system changed last season. We played a more run and gun style with our forwards being a bit lazy on the back check because they were cheating to try and create offensive chances. We went back to the Trotz style late in the season and in the playoffs.
That is why Holtbys numbers suffered in the regular and were better in the playoffs.
    The defence has been horrid this season. A lot of it is on our forwards not back checking. Last game there were several occasions that our forwards gave up on the play.
     I think it is a bigger concern this year. Last season I expected some growing pains because of the rookies in the lineup. There are no excuses thus season.
     We are quick to jump on our defencemen. True they aren't playing well but they aren't getting much support from our forwards. Another thing that I have noticed is that our dmen are turning the puck over on stretch passes.
       
   

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #88 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 01:20:25 PM Eastern »
    I'm starting to scare myself because I'm finding that I am agreeing with DC on almost everything.

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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #89 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 03:32:30 PM Eastern »

       THIS!
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    What struck me about this game was the lack of physicality which unfortunately has become the norm in the league over the last 3 years.  I can't think of one hard check by either team in this game.


       AND THIS!
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  Another thing that I have noticed is that our dmen are turning the puck over on stretch passes.   


      AND THIS!
    :pointdown:
. . . .
    A lot of it is on our forwards not back checking. Last game there were several occasions that our forwards gave up on the play.


      Our main problems!

I remember thinking that we appeared castrated on the physicality front and that we'd have benefited a lot if we used our size a few times. It probably would have slowed up the speedy Habs. I was impressed with our conditioning and ability to largely keep up with these guys though.
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #90 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 03:33:02 PM Eastern »
    I'm starting to scare myself because I'm finding that I am agreeing with DC on almost everything.

LOL!
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #91 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 06:43:26 PM Eastern »
Conditioning has not been an issue with this team in quite a few years, with the minor exception of this season with the hangover. But that should be long gone by now
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #92 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 06:45:00 PM Eastern »
   That wasnt that good of a save Holtby was beat. Domi had Three quarters if the net to shoot at and he ended up shooting at the only place he wouldnt score.

I just had to poke back at you here about this comment. Since the day of the game and even today they are talking about how incredible this save was.
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #93 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 06:52:08 PM Eastern »
Conditioning has not been an issue with this team in quite a few years, with the minor exception of this season with the hangover. But that should be long gone by now

I would go so far as agreeing to last season, but we struggled quite a bit with fast teams the season prior, especially in the 3rd frames. IMO this is our best start in this area ever.

If you like we can have a duel to settle this.   :clown:   Or we can agree to disagree!   ;)
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #94 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 07:10:40 PM Eastern »
Dual it is, I hope you have your own paintball gun  :wackysmile:
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #95 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 07:38:23 PM Eastern »
Dual it is, I hope you have your own paintball gun  :wackysmile:

Actually, I do.   :thumbsup:
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Re: GDT#11 Capitals @ Canadiens 7:30 p.m. ET Thu Nov 1, 2018 NBCSWA, TSN2, RDS
« Reply #96 on: Saturday November 03, 2018, 07:39:55 PM Eastern »
    I'm starting to scare myself because I'm finding that I am agreeing with DC on almost everything.
that’s not a bad thing  8)