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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #140 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:08:32 PM Eastern »
That was not a great game if your a hockey fan. It was a great game if you're a jackass zebra fan
   Ya it wasnt a good game to watch.

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #141 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:09:10 PM Eastern »

Best shot in the league but he has to deke.
If he just snipes it from 15 feet out, it's in the back of the net, but he keeps trying to deke and he keeps failing.  If it 'ain't broke, don't fix it - aka Oshie - if it isn't working - aka Ovi - change your tactic dude!   >:(
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #142 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:09:54 PM Eastern »
Ha ha ha!  Alan May calling out the refs!
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #143 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:19:38 PM Eastern »
OV has never been that great on the shootout, probably the only weak spot in his play throughout his career
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #144 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:20:25 PM Eastern »
If he just snipes it from 15 feet out, it's in the back of the net, but he keeps trying to deke and he keeps failing.  If it 'ain't broke, don't fix it - aka Oshie - if it isn't working - aka Ovi - change your tactic dude!   >:(


That’s why his career SO is at 31%. If he just shot it would be more like 45-50%.

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #145 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:21:16 PM Eastern »
It was nice to hear May say what we all saw with the officiating, but he won't get in trouble for it
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #146 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:24:30 PM Eastern »
Ha ha ha!  Alan May calling out the refs!
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   The refs deserved to be called out. It seemed like these guys were on a power trip. Ive always felt when a ref does a good job that you dont really notice him. When officials get noticed too much it means they had an off night.

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #147 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:26:13 PM Eastern »
I really think we should have won this game and quite easily.
We lost for two reasons.  That first period was atrocious.  No question.  That was on us.

The second was the truly appalling reffing in the second and third periods.   Like seriously?  You know when, sometimes you just shake your head slowly in disbelief?
Well look, the way I see it is that after a truly appalling first period, we regrouped and got some fight back in the second.  We got a point out of a game that, in my opinion, we should have walked away with it easily, but we got a point.
Meh!
We should have had that.
Oh, for the record, I thought Copley was outstanding.  Again.
This game has really annoyed me.  We SHOULD ahve won it and easily.  Our laziness and arrogance in that first period cost us, even more that the ridiculous reffing that followed.
BAH!  HUMBUG!    >:(
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #148 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:27:24 PM Eastern »
OV has never been that great on the shootout, probably the only weak spot in his play throughout his career
And yet they keep..... keep puttong him out there.   :(
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #149 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 10:58:00 PM Eastern »
The Hershey Bears lost tonight too, in a SO
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #150 on: Friday October 19, 2018, 11:14:15 PM Eastern »
Hard to feel robbed after that 1st period, but once we made the comeback the zebras took over.. Thought we stole both points, then they announced Ovie.. lol Dude really shouldn't be 3rd out, but whatever, Nick missed too.. 

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #151 on: Saturday October 20, 2018, 07:04:11 AM Eastern »
two points is two points, but if I was an FLA fan I’d be livid. 


You don’t come back from a 3 goal lead, the other team blows it.


The Caps better change this entertainment based, pond hockey videogame bullshit real quick or this is gonna get ugly when they run outta gas and/or teams don’t fuck up and blow 3 goal leads






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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #152 on: Saturday October 20, 2018, 09:54:30 AM Eastern »
two points is two points, but if I was an FLA fan I’d be livid. 


You don’t come back from a 3 goal lead, the other team blows it.


The Caps better change this entertainment based, pond hockey videogame bullshit real quick or this is gonna get ugly when they run outta gas and/or teams don’t fuck up and blow 3 goal leads
     There is a reason that Florida hadnt won a game before this. They have some talented players but they have to clean up the sloppy play.
     And the Caps are playing the same way. Our personnel hasn't changed much but we do look different. This is more than just individual mistakes. When we are hemmed in our zone everyone is scrambling around. There is no structure. It doesnt even look like we are following any system. There have been some bad individual mistakes. We had some turnovers in our end. It seemed when we turnover the puck it ended up in our net all the time. Our forwards are all leaving the zone too early because we are thinking offense first. On the penalty that Niskanen took late in the 3rd period. The forwards all left the zone and even Orlov was leaving the zone when Niskanen passed it to him. It wasnt a tape to tape pass and it bounced away from Orlov resulting in a turnover. Niskanen who was alone in the defensive zone got caught flat footed and was forced to take a penalty. Plays like this are happening too often because we are thinking offense first. If it only happened when certain players were on the ice I would guess that it was on those players but it happens with all 4 lines. This is a coaching issue.
     After the first intermission Alan May commented about the Caps forwards all leaving the zone early and we were relying on the stress pass and the Panthers were sitting in the neutral zone waiting to intercept those passes.
      DC is correct. We are playing video game hockey. It looks like Reirden stole his system from EAsports.

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #153 on: Saturday October 20, 2018, 10:35:02 AM Eastern »
Panther announcers noted on the Carlson goal, he was out of position and about to be behind the play, but we got a fortunate turnover that allowed him to get deep in the O zone and score.  Team is playing a high risk game. Need to tighten up!

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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #154 on: Saturday October 20, 2018, 08:30:30 PM Eastern »
thought I’d pull this back out since it was earned ....


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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #155 on: Sunday October 21, 2018, 02:23:21 AM Eastern »
     There is a reason that Florida hadnt won a game before this. They have some talented players but they have to clean up the sloppy play.
     And the Caps are playing the same way. Our personnel hasn't changed much but we do look different. This is more than just individual mistakes. When we are hemmed in our zone everyone is scrambling around. There is no structure. It doesnt even look like we are following any system. There have been some bad individual mistakes. We had some turnovers in our end. It seemed when we turnover the puck it ended up in our net all the time. Our forwards are all leaving the zone too early because we are thinking offense first. On the penalty that Niskanen took late in the 3rd period. The forwards all left the zone and even Orlov was leaving the zone when Niskanen passed it to him. It wasnt a tape to tape pass and it bounced away from Orlov resulting in a turnover. Niskanen who was alone in the defensive zone got caught flat footed and was forced to take a penalty. Plays like this are happening too often because we are thinking offense first. If it only happened when certain players were on the ice I would guess that it was on those players but it happens with all 4 lines. This is a coaching issue.
     After the first intermission Alan May commented about the Caps forwards all leaving the zone early and we were relying on the stress pass and the Panthers were sitting in the neutral zone waiting to intercept those passes.
      DC is correct. We are playing video game hockey. It looks like Reirden stole his system from EAsports.


I think you nailed it with this post, Maaco!
The scrambling around, when defending our zone, is embarrassing to watch. This has been habitual and common to see, for the last several seasons. We have grown to rely on our ability to PREVENT both red or blue line crossing, OR to disrupt early entrance into our zone, by our opponent, by keeping  pucks to the outside. Unfortunately, it’s essentially all we’ve got defensively, and we live and die by it!


The problem is that once an opponent gets the, (relatively speaking here), “rare” opportunity to set up in our zone, hemming us in, and cycling around, WE ARE SCREWED!!! Confusion starts, and we appear BAFFLED, and clueless as to how to defend at this point.  It is my belief that this is when we are most vulnerable, and all the other teams know it.
I would love to see a statistic showing our opponents shooting percentage, once they’ve had control of the puck in our zone, for longer than, say, 12 seconds or so!!  I’ll bet we have one of the highest G/SOG AGAINST percentages, in the league, using that qualifier!!


On the contrary, the only time you didn’t see us have this problem, was during our last two
rounds of the playoffs with Tampa, and Vegas.
Our 1-3-1 defensive setup at the red line, worked extremely well, because, for reasons still not really known, we “came together” collectively, as a team, hustling and staying in our role.  When a team does that in a 1-3-1, it’s D is damn near impenetrable!!!  Let’s remember also, that we were playing teams with excellent puck control.
The other difference during the playoffs, IMO, was when a team did get through, our forwards would close the gap, defensively speaking, by hustling and playing more individually responsible, making it seem like we were immediately in their face, when they received a pass, causing disruption to the opponents setup ability!!
We saw some slight carryover of this in our wins against Boston and Las Vegas.  Both of these wins were dominating wins!  NOW, unfortunately, I think we are beginning to see a return back to an all too common style of early, regular season, Caps hockey. The signature stuff like, getting lazy/cockey, after a big win, which leads to the D breakdowns mentioned above.
Add in some cockey forwards, leaving the zone early,  and you’ve got a real mess on your hands, as the caps might have now!


Coaching is always at the root of this stuff,  so I’m willing to give Rierden some time. I feel like the Caps can turn it on whenever they feel like it. They still have that much talent on the roster!!  The question, like it has always been for the past few years, is which Caps team will show up on any given night? If Rierden can tap into that issue , and improve it, then I don’t think we have much to worry about.


Last words......Bura is now officially in the “Where’s Waldo” category!  “F” him!!!


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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #156 on: Monday October 22, 2018, 02:07:13 PM Eastern »
I need some tech help.  I am admittedly not very saavy when it comes to computers or message boards, but I am have a weird specific problem.
I am not seeing ALL of Maaco's posts.  It's like some of them are invisible.  I see some of his posts but not all of them.  For example:

I see his posts about some of the penalty calls, and about the sloppy play and goal tending, etc, but none of this type show up:

Carlson scores in the first period  to tie the game 1-1 and Maaco's hero worship post isn't there.
Caps allow 4 goals in the 1st period and Maaco's berating the Caps other D men doesn't show up (even though Carly was on the ice for two of the goals)
The TV talking heads are already promoting Carlson for the Norris trophy and Maaco's support comments just aren't there.

Really strange.  Can one of you tech guys tell me what's wrong with this? :wackysmile:


(Maybe I should have posted this in the boredom thread)





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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #157 on: Monday October 22, 2018, 05:16:27 PM Eastern »
 :lol:
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Re: GDT#7 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Fri Oct 19, 2018 NBCSWA, TVAS, FS-F
« Reply #158 on: Monday October 22, 2018, 07:07:41 PM Eastern »
I need some tech help.  I am admittedly not very saavy when it comes to computers or message boards, but I am have a weird specific problem.
I am not seeing ALL of Maaco's posts.  It's like some of them are invisible.  I see some of his posts but not all of them.  For example:

I see his posts about some of the penalty calls, and about the sloppy play and goal tending, etc, but none of this type show up:

Carlson scores in the first period  to tie the game 1-1 and Maaco's hero worship post isn't there.
Caps allow 4 goals in the 1st period and Maaco's berating the Caps other D men doesn't show up (even though Carly was on the ice for two of the goals)
The TV talking heads are already promoting Carlson for the Norris trophy and Maaco's support comments just aren't there.

Really strange.  Can one of you tech guys tell me what's wrong with this?  [size=78%]  [/size] :wackysmile:


(Maybe I should have posted this in the boredom thread)


Hilarious Rich!🤣😂


My guess is that he is unable to post during the specific events that you’ve mentioned!  I mean, it’s damn near impossible to type with Vaseline all over your hands!!!!😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣


(Now Maaco, even YOU have to admit, that’s fuckin funny)!!


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