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Wilson gets 20 god damn games..
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Surreylily on Thursday October 18, 2018, 11:24:37 PM Eastern ---This whole thing really pisses me off. Not just the NHL dithering, more so the lack of judgement by Willy.
I can understand the NHL's stance - to a certain degree, but yhey should just make a decision already.
TBH, I'm more upset with Willy.
He knows he's a marked man by the refs. He KNOWS! Ovi is the same. Marked and always watched very carefully. Ovi has had some pretty .... meh.... how to put it: - borderline (?) plays in his career, but he cleaned them up. Holy crap, he gets an outomatic suspension if he tucks his shirt in his corset, even though other players, even in his own team are allowed to do it. Stupid, stupid, stupid, I know. Exactly. But that's the way it is. Ovi has adapted and has become, not just one of the best scorers generationally, but one of the best scorers of all time, in spite of all the NHL's BS.
Willy worries me now. He has such a huge target on him. He has had for a while. He KNOWS this! The O'Hallorans, the O'Rourkes and the like, who do the opposite of giving him the benefit of the doubt and even seem to fabricate misdemeanors, they must be laughing their heads off now. Willy has absolutely NOT deserved everything he's got.
However.
He KNOWS he's a marked man and to do something as reckless as this was just plain stupid. When is he going to bloody well learn?Other teams can just glide by him now, blow him kisses and there's nothing he can do about it.
A few years ago, someone was banned from the NHL. I can't remember who, but it was because of too many suspensions, I believe. A lifetime ban. I'm sure I read that somewhere. ... ?
I think the 20 games is excessive, expecially considering many of his penalties were bogus. Maybe that's what the NHL is trying to determine?
Whilst he's on his holidays, I hope Willy grows another brain cell. (Ō_ƆŎ)
(Preferably somewhere more north of his current hemishpere.).
Just sayin
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I'll tell you why I think Wilson did what he did re: Sundqvist. Look at the tape. Sundqvist is coming down the wing and suddenly cuts toward the center of the ice. Meanwhile, Wilson is coasting diagonally from near center ice toward his defensive zone, reading the play. He isn't skating pell-mell toward Sundqvist with the intent of flattening him -- he's coasting. All of a sudden, in the space of a second, Sundqvist is right in his sights. Yes, it is always possible that Wilson could have gone to some lengths to avoid him. But that isn't in his DNA. When an opportunity to get in a perfectly legal hit (and the NHL made it clear that Sundqvist was eligible to be checked on that play) presents itself, a guy like Wilson is going to take it. If Sundqvist had continued down the wing rather than cutting to the center of the ice this check never would have happened.
Now please understand, by saying this I'm not trying to blame Sundqvist in any way. Obviously, he has a right to skate wherever he wants on the ice. What I AM saying is that this was no premeditated kill shot by a predatory Tom Wilson, as his detractors would want to claim. It was a hockey circumstance that came up virtually in an instant, in a way that happens countless times every game, which gave a guy who likes the hitting part of the game an opportunity which he had to decide in a split second whether or not to take. Knowing Tom Wilson, we all KNOW what decision he's going to make, preseason, regular season, postseason -- it doesn't matter. One thing Tom Wilson does -- he plays the game he knows. Wilson hit him in what even the league admits was a legitimate hockey play. It turned out to be a hockey play that went bad, and the League's take on Wilson right now is that he is not allowed to have any hockey plays he makes go bad. He is in one-strike-and-you're-out territory, literally.
If Tom Wilson wants to continue playing a physical game (which I cannot imagine him not wanting to do), then he is going to have to adjust his hitting so that there is no chance he makes anything that could be construed as primary contact with an opponent's head (which I'm not sure was the primary point of the Sundqvist contact based on the physics of what happened afterward, as I discussed elsewhere). One thing he could do is, when he hits someone, to lower his shoulder like an NFL running back "finishing a run." I just don't want to hear the NHL complain if he does that and some opponent is out for the rest of the season with broken ribs.
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Thursday October 25, 2018, 10:54:15 PM Eastern ---
I'll tell you why I think Wilson did what he did re: Sundqvist. Look at the tape. Sundqvist is coming down the wing and suddenly cuts toward the center of the ice. Meanwhile, Wilson is coasting diagonally from near center ice toward his defensive zone, reading the play. He isn't skating pell-mell toward Sundqvist with the intent of flattening him -- he's coasting. All of a sudden, in the space of a second, Sundqvist is right in his sights. Yes, it is always possible that Wilson could have gone to some lengths to avoid him. But that isn't in his DNA. When an opportunity to get in a perfectly legal hit (and the NHL made it clear that Sundqvist was eligible to be checked on that play) presents itself, a guy like Wilson is going to take it. If Sundqvist had continued down the wing rather than cutting to the center of the ice this check never would have happened.
Now please understand, by saying this I'm not trying to blame Sundqvist in any way. Obviously, he has a right to skate wherever he wants on the ice. What I AM saying is that this was no premeditated kill shot by a predatory Tom Wilson, as his detractors would want to claim. It was a hockey circumstance that came up virtually in an instant, in a way that happens countless times every game, which gave a guy who likes the hitting part of the game an opportunity which he had to decide in a split second whether or not to take. Knowing Tom Wilson, we all KNOW what decision he's going to make, preseason, regular season, postseason -- it doesn't matter. One thing Tom Wilson does -- he plays the game he knows. Wilson hit him in what even the league admits was a legitimate hockey play. It turned out to be a hockey play that went bad, and the League's take on Wilson right now is that he is not allowed to have any hockey plays he makes go bad. He is in one-strike-and-you're-out territory, literally.
If Tom Wilson wants to continue playing a physical game (which I cannot imagine him not wanting to do), then he is going to have to adjust his hitting so that there is no chance he makes anything that could be construed as primary contact with an opponent's head (which I'm not sure was the primary point of the Sundqvist contact based on the physics of what happened afterward, as I discussed elsewhere). One thing he could do is, when he hits someone, to lower his shoulder like an NFL running back "finishing a run." I just don't want to hear the NHL complain if he does that and some opponent is out for the rest of the season with broken ribs.
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Fantastic comment on the overall Wilson picture, Black!
I agree about the way Wilson is wired. Also agree that his intention is NOT to cause injury.
Many of his “suspension” hits have truly been borderline, marked by last second posture changes by the unfortunate opponent on the receiving end, with Willy attempting a legal hit!
It’s right of you to point out his “one strike” situation now, with NHL officials.
He’s a decent and big guy, trying to play within the rules, wired for a tough physical game, but who MUST recognize the predicament he is in!
Unfortunately, It will require a change, by him, in both self awareness, and technique. A tall order, for a guy wired in the way we like to see hockey played!
I hope he “gets it” sooner than later!
Good post, Black!
Rush
DC_1908:
The NHL, and particularly NBC, has had it out for Wilson since year one. Theyve had a narrative about what a “dangerous and dirty” player he is since he was rookie.
The past history is bull shit, the so called hit is bullshit, the injury is bull shit, this about the narrative about Tom Wilson and The NHL wants to market how good(crooked) the is at “punishing bad guys and cleaning(fagging) up the game”
Mickstix:
So, next Wednesday (Oct 31st) is the appeal to a "Neutral Arbitrator" Any idea how long "they" take to rule?? Looks like game 10 is tomorrow, then a 4 day break, then appx. 19 more days until the last 10 games (of the suspension) are played.. Unless they really REALLY want to fuck with him, he should know something long before the 20 game are up? 10 games/time served, see ya in Montreal, sounds good to me! :wackysmile:
https://novacapsfans.com/2018/10/26/tom-wilson-files-an-appeal-to-a-neutral-arbitrator-hearing-to-take-place-on-wednesday/
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Friday October 26, 2018, 08:20:32 AM Eastern ---The NHL, and particularly NBC, has had it out for Wilson since year one. Theyve had a narrative about what a “dangerous and dirty” player he is since he was rookie.
The past history is bull shit, the so called hit is bullshit, the injury is bull shit, this about the narrative about Tom Wilson and The NHL wants to market how good(crooked) the is at “punishing bad guys and cleaning(fagging) up the game”
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They have it in for Wilson because they dont want physical play in the NHL. The NHL has become nothing but whiny bitches. This generation of players are nothing but pussys. Every year there is less physicality in the league. The league is full of pussys that skate down the middle of the ice with their heads down doing toedrags and spin moves. These players are able to do this because no one will hit them. Tom Wilson is the one disruptive force that is getting in the way of the new Pussy Hockey League. The NHL is becoming hard to watch. That game against Edmonton and the game against Vancouver were fucking boring. Tortarella comments about the new NHL is 100% correct.
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