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Capitals 18-19
« on: Friday August 24, 2018, 01:15:53 AM Eastern »
they open at home this year against the B's on Wednesday Oct 3 followed by a game in shitsburgh on the 4th, game 3 is almost a full week later on the 10th vs Vegas. The rest of the schedule looks like shat, i.e. there are multiple 3-4 day breaks. The bye week :O= is the last week of January
and the regular season ends at home on Saturday April 6 vs the Isles. Then the repeat begins
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https://www.nhl.com/capitals/schedule/2018-10-01/ET

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #1 on: Friday August 24, 2018, 03:29:19 AM Eastern »
And that opener is a nice price gouge too...  Thanks Ted.
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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #2 on: Friday August 24, 2018, 09:37:09 AM Eastern »
Sweet, we get to rub Boston's nose in it!! Oh, wait..  :wackysmile: I mean they couldn't figure out how to let us play Pitt, NYI or Vegas at home 1st? Even the Flyers or NYR would be better then Boston.. Hell, Tampa.. Whatever..

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #3 on: Friday August 24, 2018, 11:31:23 AM Eastern »
they open at home this year against the B's on Wednesday Oct 3 followed by a game in shitsburgh on the 4th, game 3 is almost a full week later on the 10th vs Vegas. The rest of the schedule looks like shat, i.e. there are multiple 3-4 day breaks. The bye week :O= is the last week of January and the regular season ends at home on Saturday April 6 vs the Isles. Then the repeat begins
   :lol: :rofl:


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https://www.nhl.com/capitals/schedule/2018-10-01/ET


No actually this is great, you have that last week to come to Cleveland with us to a beer fest! :)
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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #4 on: Friday August 24, 2018, 12:54:39 PM Eastern »
And that opener is a nice price gouge too...  Thanks Ted.


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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #5 on: Friday August 31, 2018, 05:40:43 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #6 on: Saturday September 01, 2018, 09:52:41 AM Eastern »

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #7 on: Saturday September 01, 2018, 10:35:07 AM Eastern »



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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #8 on: Monday September 03, 2018, 12:43:01 PM Eastern »
Capitals sign Sergei Shumakov out of the KHL to a one-year, TWO-WAY deal at an annual value of $925,000 for any time he spends in the NHL.

Sounds like they're taking a flyer on a guy who's 25, and showed pretty well in the KHL last season.  I expect they'll start him in Hershey, see what he's got, and maybe call him up at some point (though as, say, an injury replacement, his not-minimal salary may work against his being called up.)

On the surface, this looks like a shot-in-the-dark signing.  But I wonder if this might not be a veiled shot across the bow to Burakovsky.  If Shumakov shows something and Bura spends another year doodling around and not reaching what most people seem to agree is top-6 offensive potential, since his salary is already based at $3 million AAV now, maybe if the Caps can unload him for some sort of asset they would, thinking that they can replace mediocre performance with a guy like Shumakov for a lot less money.

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday September 04, 2018, 02:08:29 AM Eastern »
Capitals sign Sergei Shumakov out of the KHL to a one-year, TWO-WAY deal at an annual value of $925,000 for any time he spends in the NHL.

Sounds like they're taking a flyer on a guy who's 25, and showed pretty well in the KHL last season.  I expect they'll start him in Hershey, see what he's got, and maybe call him up at some point (though as, say, an injury replacement, his not-minimal salary may work against his being called up.)

On the surface, this looks like a shot-in-the-dark signing.  But I wonder if this might not be a veiled shot across the bow to Burakovsky.  If Shumakov shows something and Bura spends another year doodling around and not reaching what most people seem to agree is top-6 offensive potential, since his salary is already based at $3 million AAV now, maybe if the Caps can unload him for some sort of asset they would, thinking that they can replace mediocre performance with a guy like Shumakov for a lot less money.
Hey Ice!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe we were just starting to share a few posts, right before I took a little break from the board earlier this year. If so, then I’m lookin forward to it again!
Anyway, interesting observation on the Bura thing. Hadn’t thought about that angle. This year will have a few more variables to toss in the mix of all things Burakovsky, IMHO! Your Shumakov point may very well be another one.
I’ve made no secret, here, of my distasteful general opinion of Bura. My patience level with him “finally turning it around”, has dropped proportionally, with each of Trotz’s “resets”, over the last few seasons!


I believe he is one, of a multitude of many younger NHLers, who have had mental maturity issues, dealing with over imposed, self-pressure, when they start underperforming. NHL coaches comment all the time about these youngsters, who start in the league, with an over confident, inflated opinion of their own talents, thusly, experiencing the MOTHER of all reality checks, i.e., the overwhelming speed and physicality of an NHL game! Coaches from around the league have commented on this isssue as one of the “make or break” points in an NHL rookies career. Some overcome quickly, moving on to an NHL career of some length. Others must endure a few resets, and some AHL/NHL bouncing around, on their way to potential NHL status, and of course, the majority don’t make it.
For Bura, frankly, this process has gone on way too long! Trotz and the Caps have afforded him EVERY opportunity, and then some, to show, that he can have CONSISTENT performance, and he has NOT! Injuries, resets, or otherwise, as excuses. Short Flashes YES. A few of them, actually, But at some point, you simply have to produce!
I also think he has always struggled with the fluid chemistry of teamwork and TEAM play, on any line he plays on.
Maybe, just maybe, we got a possible short glimpse of him beginning to squash the Individual emphasis, in the last few playoff rounds! But he does not merit hope, in my book, with his history.  But of course as a caps fan, and with his obviously natural skillset, I’d like  nothing better than to see him have a career year this year.......Ain’t holding my breath, though, Ice! LOL


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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #10 on: Friday September 07, 2018, 09:02:44 PM Eastern »

Rush - I somehow have stayed on the Bura bandwagon.  His talent intrigues me and he has had stretches where he just looks fantastic.  I'm not sure if Trotz babied him and didn't push him hard enough or if his occasional sit-downs, hurt Bura's confidence (which is ridiculous).  I am hoping with the new head coach that Bura will really step it up this year.




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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #11 on: Friday September 07, 2018, 11:15:17 PM Eastern »
Rush - I somehow have stayed on the Bura bandwagon.  His talent intrigues me and he has had stretches where he just looks fantastic.  I'm not sure if Trotz babied him and didn't push him hard enough or if his occasional sit-downs, hurt Bura's confidence (which is ridiculous).  I am hoping with the new head coach that Bura will really step it up this year.


Hey Beags!
I do agree that Bura is blessed with, and has demonstrated, NATURAL, high level NHL talent. We’ve witnessed even Kuzy-like flashes from the guy! His unique physical skill set is beyond question, IMHO.
Bura’s issues are squarely between the ears!  95-100% mental issues!
Trotz over the past few seasons, has talked in an unusually frank, and more detailed manor, with the media, when discussing actions taken with Bura. I’ll paraphrase a bit, here, but Trotz mentioned things like saying that mentally, Andre is his own worst enemy. Also mentioning after one of the resets that young players come into the league, full of confidence, and sometimes this leads to them trying to do it all themselves. We just want to remind Andre to take some pressure off himself. Trotz then explained
that the NHL has a way of convincing up and coming, young players, that they NEED THEIR BUDDIES on the ice, if they want to become great players!! (not exact quotes, but you get the drift).


My point Beags, is that I’m still watching and waiting for Bura to turn that mental corner. He attracted more of my focus last year, as a result. I did mention in my prior post that maybe we caught a glimpse of him starting to turn the corner, in the playoffs. This would obviously be great if it continues! Unfortunately, Bura has “circled the block”, several times over, with his own claims of turning the corner, nearly each time after resets or injury recovery. Bura’s situation is similar to that of the highly functional drug addict, that has told his family countless times that he will quit! IS IT THIS TIME??


At my age, I admit, My beginning view, on any pro sports player, will start with a negative vibe, if they appear to need too much babysitting. Maybe Riordan will help. We see all the time, players changing with a change of coach! I guarantee Bura will be watched very closely. If he can handle that pressure from within, we will all be happier Caps fans this year!


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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #12 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 01:23:14 AM Eastern »
Somehow Bura cannot blend with team play, yes he does very skillful plays, but he needs to learn how to use team mates.

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #13 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 10:47:08 AM Eastern »
Somehow Bura cannot blend with team play, yes he does very skillful plays, but he needs to learn how to use team mates.
Agree completely, he did show flashes and played solid in the SCF, that isn’t enough to say that is the new Bura, not being a long shot.


There’s not much to go on with Reidion, but I greatly hope that Buras spot in the line up isn’t engraved as it used to be(if Reidon has that choice).  With combinations of Stevenson, Greish, Boyd, Dowd, and Varana available, Bura can easily turn into more of a liabily than his point totals are worth.

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #14 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 02:01:23 PM Eastern »
i'm a bit intrigued with Shumakov. Let's say, he had a conflict with CSKA coach, but I'm sure Caps did good scouting on him, and Fedorov is GM of CSKA. He should be still approachable but Caps, and Ovie is not unknown to Fedorov. I hope Caps know what they are doing. May be he is top 6 talent, but due different style for winger it might be take couple of years to become truly NHL player. I think he'll be defense liability sometime. But I also think he'll be in check by Ovie. Salary cap impact is small and he should be very motivated as he decided to become NHL player.   

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #15 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 02:06:16 PM Eastern »
Agree completely, he did show flashes and played solid in the SCF, that isn’t enough to say that is the new Bura, not being a long shot.


There’s not much to go on with Reidion, but I greatly hope that Buras spot in the line up isn’t engraved as it used to be(if Reidon has that choice).  With combinations of Stevenson, Greish, Boyd, Dowd, and Varana available, Bura can easily turn into more of a liabily than his point totals are worth.
I like how Varana is molding into a great player, Caps should lock him. Bura probably will become a bargaining chip. I don't see an easy way for him, but he can become a great player somewhere else. Well, he still has a chance with Caps, but time is running out. 

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #16 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 05:13:19 PM Eastern »
I think Bura has worked his way into a tough spot in this organization.


Going into the upcoming season, with Wilson having had a productive playoff and looking good on the first line, 5 of the top 6 forwards are set:  Ovie, Kuzy, Wilson, Oshie, and Backstrom.  One would think the remaining top 6 forward spot is Vrana's to lose at this point.  During the playoffs especially, he seemed to separate himself from Bura by his work without the puck, which led to a lot of his scoring opportunities.


That leaves Bura to start the season on the 3rd line, with Eller/Stephenson/Connolly/Smith-Pelly, or however they arrange the lower 6.  Now Bura is much more a 3rd line player than a bottom-line player, but the problem is, Eller is not that much of a distributing center so Bura's chances to be productive may be somewhat limited.  That in turn wouldn't allow him to make a compelling case for promotion into the top 6, nor is it going to make him look good stats-wise if the Caps were to try to move him, especially with that $3 million cap hit.  Also of note is that the Caps have NO high end potential among their few forward prospects, which would make the Caps want to give him every chance to succeed here.  As I say, Bura looks to be in a tough spot -- the organization probably wants to keep him and see if he can reach his potential, but his playing niche right now is working against his reaching that potential.

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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #17 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 07:01:49 PM Eastern »
I think Bura has worked his way into a tough spot in this organization.


Going into the upcoming season, with Wilson having had a productive playoff and looking good on the first line, 5 of the top 6 forwards are set:  Ovie, Kuzy, Wilson, Oshie, and Backstrom.  One would think the remaining top 6 forward spot is Vrana's to lose at this point.  During the playoffs especially, he seemed to separate himself from Bura by his work without the puck, which led to a lot of his scoring opportunities.


That leaves Bura to start the season on the 3rd line, with Eller/Stephenson/Connolly/Smith-Pelly, or however they arrange the lower 6.  Now Bura is much more a 3rd line player than a bottom-line player, but the problem is, Eller is not that much of a distributing center so Bura's chances to be productive may be somewhat limited.  That in turn wouldn't allow him to make a compelling case for promotion into the top 6, nor is it going to make him look good stats-wise if the Caps were to try to move him, especially with that $3 million cap hit.  Also of note is that the Caps have NO high end potential among their few forward prospects, which would make the Caps want to give him every chance to succeed here.  As I say, Bura looks to be in a tough spot -- the organization probably wants to keep him and see if he can reach his potential, but his playing niche right now is working against his reaching that potential.
Depends on what you mean by “potential”.  At least Stevenson, Greisch, Boyd, and maybe Walker are already, or on track to be better 200ft versatile players,with less mistakes and less salary.


Bura averaged about .5 points per game in the regular season, and despite a solid playoff, his errors and deficiencies out way .5 ppg and his $3.5? cap hit.


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Re: Capitals 18-19
« Reply #18 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 07:25:44 PM Eastern »
When I say high end potential, I mean top 6.  The only player of the ones you named who could have that is Gersich, and I say that only because he is still pretty young and lightning could strike.  But really, all of these guys are bottom 6.


Burakovsky was never drafted to be a bottom 6 player.  He was drafted to try to hit a home run.  I wouldn't say his selection was a swing and a miss, but it really hasn't been more than a loud foul thus far.

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« Reply #19 on: Saturday September 08, 2018, 08:26:36 PM Eastern »
When I say high end potential, I mean top 6.  The only player of the ones you named who could have that is Gersich, and I say that only because he is still pretty young and lightning could strike.  But really, all of these guys are bottom 6.


Burakovsky was never drafted to be a bottom 6 player.  He was drafted to try to hit a home run.  I wouldn't say his selection was a swing and a miss, but it really hasn't been more than a loud foul thus far.
     If the Shumakov signing works out that could spell the end of Burakovsky. You talk about top 6 players as if skill is all that matters. You still need to be a 200 foot player. Burakovsky is not a 200 foot player.
    You dont give some of these other guys enough credit. I think Stephenson can be a top 6 player in the NHL.