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Devise:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Sunday June 24, 2018, 04:07:39 PM Eastern ---Well, it is now 4 pm, well after the time when impending UFA's can begin talking to other teams. We have heard nothing about whether or not Carlson has been resigned, which I interpret as meaning he hasn't. Whether that means that talks have broken down, they are in the final stages of negotiating the crossed t's and dotted i's, there has been a mutual agreement that Carlson will talk to other teams, or whatever, we have no idea, because there seems to be a news blackout.
This situation, even more than the Trotz negotiation, is the linchpin of this offseason; almost everything else the team does this summer, with the possible exception of whatever deal they eventually give Wilson, hinges on what happens in with Carlson. It would be nice if the team would give us a status report, no matter how brief. (Ō_ƆŎ)
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There is still a chance that they are letting Carlson talk to other teams intentionally. Some teams (see the Isles with Tavares this season and Bolts with Stamkos a few ago) prefer to do that to show some respect to the player. Let me know confirm that upon testing the field they can see their own team is giving them value they like etc.
It's all part of the process. In most cases when it gets this close to FA you usually end up seeing a signing either on FA to the same team, or a bit during. If he was a lock to come back with the team for sure though he'd of been signed well before the end of the season. So I think that is somewhat telling, and for players I think sometimes that plays a bit in it too right? You ain't willing to discuss this with me start of the season? Fine, then I'll at least exercise my right to hear from some other teams.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Sunday June 24, 2018, 03:54:56 PM Eastern ---Well with the system we the Cup with, we don’t need to pay a top 5 or 3 point totaling Dman. So replanting him in with that mind could and should work to our advantage.
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You are contradicting yourself. We won the cup with the system and Carlson was a huge part of it. Our system wasnt only a trap system. It involved dmen joining the rush. Also a big part of our success in the playoffs was due to our potent pp. Carlson was very important in that pp. We dont have anyone close to Carlson to play his spot on the pp. I know a lot of guys here aren't fans of Carlson but without him we dont win the cup. Not sure why some guys can't admit that.
Maacoshark:
Just heard rumors that the Caps are close to signing Carlson on an 8 year deal for 8 mil per season. Not sure if this is true. That's what I thought he would get. I was for something a bit lower in both money and the length.
zerofox:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Sunday June 24, 2018, 06:29:05 PM Eastern --- Just heard rumors that the Caps are close to signing Carlson on an 8 year deal for 8 mil per season. Not sure if this is true. That's what I thought he would get. I was for something a bit lower in both money and the length.
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Looks like it's done. I don't think the term and salary are a surprise to anyone. It's a bit rich and the term is too long but I'm not against it because I don't know of many other high level right handed dmen who can work the PP and eat up minutes like he does that are available and cheaper than him. Losing him would leave a large void, although without him we might have gone for "defense by committee" and used that $8 million to grab two quality dmen (which would also take care of our 6th spot left open by Orpik).
I don't love the deal, but I don't hate it. I know it is going to bite us in the ass, but hopefully that'll be years from now and hopefully we'll get at least a handful of years where he plays like he's worth the $8 million...
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Sunday June 24, 2018, 06:58:59 PM Eastern ---
Looks like it's done. I don't think the term and salary are a surprise to anyone. It's a bit rich and the term is too long but I'm not against it because I don't know of many other high level right handed dmen who can work the PP and eat up minutes like he does that are available and cheaper than him. Losing him would leave a large void, although without him we might have gone for "defense by committee" and used that $8 million to grab two quality dmen (which would also take care of our 6th spot left open by Orpik).
I don't love the deal, but I don't hate it. I know it is going to bite us in the ass, but hopefully that'll be years from now and hopefully we'll get at least a handful of years where he plays like he's worth the $8 million...
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I feel pretty much the same way about the deal. Dont love the deal but dont hate it either.
I think there will be some disappointed guys here.
As for the 6th we have plenty of prospects that could fill that spot. Who knows Orpik may be back yet.
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