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DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Monday July 30, 2018, 10:14:48 PM Eastern --- Sorry DC but I think your dislike for GMBM is getting a but ridiculous. The goal of any team is to be competitive with the ultimate goal winning the Cup. 2 presidents cups and a Stanley Cup the last 3 seasons. What else does he have to do so you will give him some credit.
Most of his decisions have worked out so far whether you like it or not. He may not be building a team that you prefer but he has built a winning franchise. Give him some credit.
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The goal of great organizations and champions is domination and dynasties, not just one year, and not good being enough, not having a chance and hoping for the stars to align and catch lightning in a bottle.
Give him credit for what? Being in the box while a team made up primarily by, including the core, was won by the GM in the next box over? For doing the old video game trick of long salaries so it’s less per year with the hopes that they’ll be retirements or the league will all but drop the salary cap?
All signs for a future of a cap hell with underperomabing players with unreadable contacts are there, and only one Cup doesn’t make up for, or excuse that.
KitFisto:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Monday July 30, 2018, 03:25:02 PM Eastern ---Hey not pissed off about winning the Cup, Im just irked that all of the sudden people think the all the craptostic performances and valid criticisms this year and in the past years, are now forgiven, forgotten. ignored, disowned, and even criticized because of the last 7 games!
Bottom line is we won a Cup. One. One in a 10 years of each year expecting to win or make the playoffs to "have a chance". Thats 10% success, with is only better that 0, certainly not great, nor good enough.
On top which, it is illogical if not fast out delusional to think this group and front office will not only keep the level of the last games, but not let rest accomplishment and do the same for the next 10 years, saying "well we have A cup, and have a chance at another". . .
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What you fail to point out is most of that was under McPhail. He goes bye bye and within a few years we raise the cup.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Tuesday July 31, 2018, 06:09:15 AM Eastern ---
What you fail to point out is most of that was under McPhail. He goes bye bye and within a few years we raise the cup.
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No I didn’t fail. I’ve made that case plenty of times
Which is why you’re resorting to atttemt to use flawed and laymen Aristotelian logic in an equally flawed and laymen attempt to trip me up.
KitFisto:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Tuesday July 31, 2018, 06:17:42 AM Eastern ---No I didn’t fail. I’ve made that case plenty of times
Which is why you’re resorting to atttemt to use flawed and laymen Aristotelian logic in an equally flawed and laymen attempt to trip me up.
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And your case is WRONG. The simple fact is that you LOATHE this team's management because they don't do things YOUR way and no amount of winning will ever change that. Your precious McPhail didn't win squat even with 16 years of opportunity. His drafting was absolutely terrible for his first decade here. You give him a pass and blame all on Ted and Patrick. Ted and Patrick deserve some blame too, but so does McJoke. If you've shown anything after winning a cup, it's that it's YOU who doesn't care about winning. All you care about is having it do e the way YOU want it done even if that means never winning..... I can see why you love McPhee so much.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Tuesday July 31, 2018, 08:43:56 AM Eastern ---
And your case is WRONG. The simple fact is that you LOATHE this team's management because they don't do things YOUR way and no amount of winning will ever change that. Your precious McPhail didn't win squat even with 16 years of opportunity. His drafting was absolutely terrible for his first decade here. You give him a pass and blame all on Ted and Patrick. Ted and Patrick deserve some blame too, but so does McJoke. If you've shown anything after winning a cup, it's that it's YOU who doesn't care about winning. All you care about is having it do e the way YOU want it done even if that means never winning..... I can see why you love McPhee so much.
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No. You’re emotions are so out of control you’ve lost objectivity, so you do not see the the bigger picture of transpired is transpiring, and the likely trajectory where are on.
But hey,if don’t agree with me that the goal needs to be dynasty and domination, and as long as you can die happy going into the cremator or the ground wearing a 2018 Championship shirt it does matter that you don’t have one with over with four or five Champiobships, . . . than that’s pretty beta and lazy
Worse yet, if you look at the current team and see a dynasty with no cap issues not just the same ol thing Ted and/or Dickess have done since 1982. The majority of signs point to just the same ol’, but they can now say Ted has .05% of winning the Cup in seasons as the Caps owner, and Patrick has an amazing .03% Cup perstage be has been with the organization
Those two have way more input and control of rosters than the GM does.
So you mean to tell me 7 games erases all of that and we should just be happy to join Calgary, the Hurricanes, and the Ducks and the other one and done Cup winners as long as we just get one?
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