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richkrt99:
I would like to see Orpik back for (up to) 1.5 mil. If that happens, GMBM is a genius or very F'n lucky.
IF that were to happen we just got back the same player we would have been paying 4x the salary.
Orpik is aged but still effective for all the reasons many of you mentioned. Especially with some still younger D to train. Would he be willing? Beats retiring and who else would pay him? He MIGHT get a 1 year for 2 mil from someone, but would it be worth it to him? I mean it's pennies to him at this point. Why not come back where you won a cup and have an established role.
Even if we lost him it was a very useful trade. Needed the $$$ more than anything.
I like getting Kempney back and the DSP deal is a bargain and 1 year is great.
I hate to lose Beagle, but hated losing Hendricks, etc. I love Beags and everything he brings but his age is gonna impact his play sooner rather than later so unless he is willing to sign short term you got to let him walk. Good for him if he gets paid.
I've never been the biggest Carlson fan (that's Maaco's job) but I'm okay with the deal. Too much term but that's what it took to get it done and what were the other realistic options. Same thing with Kuzy deal and Orlov and so on. I remember all the bitching about those deals but that's what it took at the time. It's the timing of the contacts people forget. You can't fairly compare deals year to year and in salary alone. You have to consider not only the options available but also how they fit our needs. We HAD to sign Kuzy so we did. Same for Orlov, same for Dylan. I don't think anyone can argue Carlson doesn't fit our needs AND our team (shall we discuss Shattenkirk)
I would love a big crease clearing solid D with O skills and so on, but Byfuglin ain't available.
Why haven't we signed Wilson yet? Is it just because Of timing. He (and Carlson...Replacement) were my two biggest concerns. We need to lock up Willy deal.
I'm liking the offseason so far. But then, what the Hell do I know...didn't like last offseason and now we the STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
GO Caps
BlackIce:
rich, Wilson and to a much lesser extent Bowey were set aside because they were RFA's. The team had to take care of the pending UFA's that they wanted (Carlson, Kempny) first, all the while they were handling the draft and the coaching situation, and doing the trade to free up the cap room to sign the UFA's. Remember, it's only been a few weeks since we won the cup. The exception to this was DSP, but it seems like he sort of fell into their laps, so they took it, I guess.
Wilson may take some time, especially if the team is thinking about trying to sign him to a longer-term deal. I'd think Bowey should be fairly straightforward, but what do I know?
As far as resigning Orpik, I wouldn't mind, on a short-term contract for the right price, but if he goes elsewhere, might there be a similar defenseman on the UFA list (older, basically stay-at-home) that we could pick up?
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zerofox:
--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Saturday June 30, 2018, 05:37:12 PM Eastern ---I would like to see Orpik back for (up to) 1.5 mil. If that happens, GMBM is a genius or very F'n lucky.
IF that were to happen we just got back the same player we would have been paying 4x the salary.
Orpik is aged but still effective for all the reasons many of you mentioned. Especially with some still younger D to train. Would he be willing? Beats retiring and who else would pay him? He MIGHT get a 1 year for 2 mil from someone, but would it be worth it to him? I mean it's pennies to him at this point. Why not come back where you won a cup and have an established role.
Even if we lost him it was a very useful trade. Needed the $$$ more than anything.
I like getting Kempney back and the DSP deal is a bargain and 1 year is great.
I hate to lose Beagle, but hated losing Hendricks, etc. I love Beags and everything he brings but his age is gonna impact his play sooner rather than later so unless he is willing to sign short term you got to let him walk. Good for him if he gets paid.
I've never been the biggest Carlson fan (that's Maaco's job) but I'm okay with the deal. Too much term but that's what it took to get it done and what were the other realistic options. Same thing with Kuzy deal and Orlov and so on. I remember all the bitching about those deals but that's what it took at the time. It's the timing of the contacts people forget. You can't fairly compare deals year to year and in salary alone. You have to consider not only the options available but also how they fit our needs. We HAD to sign Kuzy so we did. Same for Orlov, same for Dylan. I don't think anyone can argue Carlson doesn't fit our needs AND our team (shall we discuss Shattenkirk)
I would love a big crease clearing solid D with O skills and so on, but Byfuglin ain't available.
Why haven't we signed Wilson yet? Is it just because Of timing. He (and Carlson...Replacement) were my two biggest concerns. We need to lock up Willy deal.
I'm liking the offseason so far. But then, what the Hell do I know...didn't like last offseason and now we the STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
GO Caps
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I wouldn't mind getting Orpik at a low cost. Other than Djoos, I prefer him over any of our other youngsters.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Sunday July 01, 2018, 10:56:52 AM Eastern ---
I wouldn't mind getting Orpik at a low cost. Other than Djoos, I prefer him over any of our other youngsters.
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I'm not very high on Djoos. He is OK when carrying the puck. But the rest of his game is weak. Not great defensively which is why the Caps sheltered him as much as possible. His biggest weakness is his lack of strength. He gets pushed off the puck too easy. He can't win any battles. I could see a couple of our prospects possibly passing him on the depth chart in the future.
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