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ArJunaZ:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Monday June 25, 2018, 11:17:54 AM Eastern ---And here’s a few glimpses of what a Dman, both shutdown & 200ft, not just a 4th forward, looks like in todays game. Granted the years are adding up for him, but he’s still quitely one of the best.
I’ll warn you this is pretty violent . . .
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That video is awesome. I almost forgot what hockey used to be like. A lot of those hits would be suspensions today. Can't say that I disagree with trying to remove hits to the head. I just wish they were consistent in their judgment. I think that video had more stars and birdies in it than any other I've seen.
:wackysmile:
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Tuesday June 26, 2018, 11:10:12 PM Eastern --- I was a big Alzner fan myself. He was a very good shutdown dman, good shot blocker and excellent on the pk. His injury problems really hurt his game. To the point that he was becoming a liability.
You seem to have a big issue with creating offense from your back end. Pretty much every team has an offensive dman. Its been that way for a long time. At least our offensive dman can handle himself in the defensive zone. Remember guys like Leetch, Coffey and Housley? Those guys didnt play defense.
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The issue is with the high salary price and high risk that comes along with them, particularly when they get massive minutes and the system makes then a key part of 5 on 5 strategies.
While the current concept generally evolved in the 90s from Bobby Orr, I don’t recall those 3 that you mentioned routinely pinching or playing behind the net. Even then, Housley and Coffey (and pretty salute Leetch), could flat out FLY, and get back to the D-Zone ahead of most forwards in there time.
But as the risks and cap hits of offensive defenseman get higher and higher, more and more teams will move away from them and exploit the ones that insist on having one or more.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: ArJunaZ on Tuesday June 26, 2018, 11:32:43 PM Eastern ---That video is awesome. I almost forgot what hockey used to be like. A lot of those hits would be suspensions today. Can't say that I disagree with trying to remove hits to the head. I just wish they were consistent in their judgment. I think that video had more stars and birdies in it than any other I've seen.
:wackysmile:
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Some of those where pretty recent, he even had a few this year. He seems to be able to walk the tightrope of the “wheel of justice” and avoid suspensions.
None the less, “as the video clearly shows”, causing forwards think twice/look twice before entering the offensive zone is a highly effective defense tactic with random costs of penalties or suspensions that are typically worth the outcome.
OldHat:
--- Quote from: dpf1971 on Tuesday June 26, 2018, 07:18:52 PM Eastern ---Interesting ..... DSP did NOT get a qualifying letter. Wilson, Bowey, Boyd, Barber and O'Brien (hells yeah !!) did get them. Though they are supposedly still talking to the guy. Wonder what this means ... maybe a move to rap up Vrana, Burakovsky, Stephenson and Djoos a year early?? Who knows ....
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Could possibly be that they wanted to avoid arbitration with DSP. I'd like to see him back for his toughness. If not they need to give O'Brien another shot at it on the wing. If he's gone, and with Orpik gone we got a lot softer.
Mickstix:
--- Quote from: dpf1971 on Tuesday June 26, 2018, 07:18:52 PM Eastern ---Interesting ..... DSP did NOT get a qualifying letter. Wilson, Bowey, Boyd, Barber and O'Brien (hells yeah !!) did get them.
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Aren't qualifying offers just for 1 year? Seems they'd want to sign Wilson for at least 3? Or is this just a starting point? Hope they can get DSP back as well.. He may turn out to be the Joel Ward type who actually has that playoff gear to find consistently..
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