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I've lost ALL Respect for DSP. I'm PISSED!
ArJunaZ:
--- Quote from: Devise on Saturday June 09, 2018, 11:37:47 PM Eastern ---
The world isn't just "left vs right" bud. I've seen lots of people, not politically affiliated at all be critical of Trump. Racist, sexist, whatever the reason. For me, as a Canadian who does not vote by the way, but if I would it would probably switch because all politicians are full of bullshit and lie to you to get voted. Which is all they care about. The fact that politics has turned into a reality TV celebrity contest (and was the case long before Trump) is a joke to me. Always will be. It's a community liason position, nothing more nothing less. A figurehead that really has very little actual responsibilities that don't involve hordes of other individuals. Much of the political system in a lot of countries including in the West are heaps of propaganda all meant to fuel a machine that none of the politicans care about. They care about instead the consequences of making the positions such "celebrity" type affairs. $$$. Bigger paychecks, bigger ability to sell books memoirs, whatever else. It's garbage.
Most "woke" I use that mostly jokingly though get that. It isn't "libtards vs god lovers". If your still on that battle then bots and fake news and the list goes on is still all you see. Forget just reading MSNBC. Or CNN or just Fox news. The idea that there "one true source" for a news media that has turned into "opinion" hour that constantly twists facts to push agendas (on all sides, all sides do this, your side does it just as much as the lefts) is exactly why none of it can be trusted. For the real people looking for real truths and facts all we are left with is spending copious amounts of hours hearing accounts for every god damn side of the story, the middle side included, and then piecing what we can about actual facts from there and coming to our own conclusions in private. Because real people like you no longer allow actual debate. You just turn everything into the "libtard vs god loving" left vs right ad hominem garbage.
Nobody should really be offended by DSP not going though. It's a peaceful right not to visit the President. Your patriotism is WAY too deep if this is the type of thing that makes your hair stand on end. It's crazy to you to think that in a world of 8 fucking billion people that some may not like the president of your Country? A country I remind you that is only one of HUNDREDS on the planet. I'm not going to try and spoil the good mood in here but I see a lot of "Americanism" in here that sometimes bugs me. Proudly display what you want, I don't care. But don't shit on others because we have a difference of opinion. We aren't telling you we are better than you, no reason you need to come be doing that back.
Trump is the type of person who does that. It's why it rubs people the wrong way. By the by I always treated Trump like a joke, well before he was elected as a President to the country I wasn't in. No different than I treat Kardashian as a joke, the cast of the jersey shore as a joke the list goes on. I could give a shit if it's democrat or republician, liberal or conservative, if your a joke your a joke. If your a reality TV star pretending to be president, your a reality TV star pretending to be president. Liberal ass George Clooney would be just as much of a joke, so it isn't about sides.
Ultimately though I'd agree with Maacoo, too many people are looking for topics like this to trigger people or let out frustrations they have. It's why generalizations happen so fast, because when you see something that bugs you in the world you instantly apply it to the first thing you can to unleash on it. The "it really grinds my gears" phenomen. At the end of the day, real people know that real policy is what counts when it comes to politics. And real policy? I've seen great policy enacted by both liberal and conservative governments, and sometimes a combination of both. It's never "I enacted this one extreme thing that the entire of my base LOVED and it totally worked for everyone." That never happens. Never. But if the extreme left and the extreme right want to continue to think extreme fascism or extreme socialism are the keys to success, I'd easily suggest them to pick up a fucking history book. IT DOESN'T WORK. Ideals and morals don't make for effective politics, LOGIC AND PRACTICALITY DOES.
Devise rant done. :P
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ArJunaZ:
--- Quote from: OldHat on Sunday June 10, 2018, 01:15:33 AM Eastern ---Except Trump is NOT a politician - and he is actually doing/working on doing what he said he would. Hmm, a novel idea.
And maybe you have to live here to understand the media bias against him. It's quite remarkable.
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I just noticed that you posted this, exactly what I was going to post. I see you already beat me to another one in response to Maaco. It boggles the mind doesn't it. Watching CNN or MSDNC is like rat poison for the brain for some people.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: ArJunaZ on Sunday June 10, 2018, 09:34:52 AM Eastern ---Sadly, you don't get it, and it's not even worth attempting to fix you. ::)
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Its you that doesn't get it. And you are too stubborn to see what is right in front if you. Now really who really cares if a player doesn't want to visit the White House. Why do you care so much? Like I said it has absolutely nothing to do with the politics. It has everything to do with Trump himself.
Sounds as if you guys think DSP should respect Trump. Why should he? Has Trump earned it.
Did you make a big deal when Tim Thomas refused to go in 2012? His reason was all political and he is an American.
My point is a lot of people don't like Trump. So what. Who fricken cares. They have the right to do so. Are you really that much in love with Trump that you need to come to his defense?
Maacoshark:
The question I have is why is DSPs political views or his feelings towards Trump so important to you? So if someone has different political views than you do, you have no respect for them? Everyone has their own beliefs.
ArJunaZ:
It warms my heart and gives me great encouragement for my Son's future that so many of you see things for what they are and not how the media has directed you. I mean this sincerely. I've been intensely researching the calamity that was the treason and coming future of the USA since 1985 and at one point about 20 years ago I had given up up that we would ever recover to be the great country we were and were meant to be. To see the awakening of so many people has been my single greatest wish.
It still amazes me how anyone does not see President Trump as the best thing to happen to America in all of our lifetimes. I will tell you this. Without the backing of some extremely powerful forces (military and intelligence) he would be dead already. There is an army of true patriots who've been planning the take back of this country for the people for decades. The deep state has finally met its match and that is why they've been running around like chickens with their heads cut off since President Trump was elected. The media under Project Mockingbird has been a propaganda machine for decades. I especially noticed the reality of this after leaving the country to work and then coming back. I realized first hand that we were one of the most propagandized nations in the western world. Canada running a tight second.
The movement to take back America chose President Trump. The only reason he ran is because he knew he had the might behind him and was part of a grand plan to take down the deep state traitors. He is only the figurehead of a very powerful counter-coup operation that Obama tried to destroy in 2012-13. I will guarantee all of you something. The show has barely begun. Get your popcorn ready.
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