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GDT R1G5 Blue Jackets @ Capitals 2018-04-21 3:00pm EST NBC, NBCSN
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Saturday April 21, 2018, 07:37:02 PM Eastern --- The top 4 in TOI in the playoffs is Seth Jones with the most. And our dmen are 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Kempny gets a regular shift 5 on 5 but doesnt play on special teams. Orpik is limited a bit 5 on 5 but he kills penalties. Djoos is very sheltered. I understand why. He gets muscled off the puck easily. Not sure Bowie is the answer. He can handle the physical play but doesn't move the puck as well. Jerabek might be a better option but he is pretty soft in the defensive zone too.
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Now I see Bowey just the opposite. From what I saw when he was playing, he moved the puck and passed it out of the D-zone as well or better than any of our other defensemen. Where he looked to me like he had a problem was along the walls, and as you say, it wasn't necessarily that he was outmuscled. He didn't seem to be able to figure out how to position himself to win board battles; he was always on the wrong side of the puck and had no leverage to keep possession. All during the season, when Carlson or Niskanen had the puck along the boards a lot of times the opponents would lurk, hoping to pick off an errant pass -- and we saw Niskanen and Carlson make plenty of them. When Bowey had the puck along the boards the closest opponent always engaged him immediately to strip the puck away.
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: alta on Saturday April 21, 2018, 07:24:19 PM Eastern ---anyone wanna tell me Holts hasn't stolen us game, cause he shure as hell did today
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For sure Holts saved our bacon in the 3rd period.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Saturday April 21, 2018, 09:09:12 PM Eastern ---
Now I see Bowey just the opposite. From what I saw when he was playing, he moved the puck and passed it out of the D-zone as well or better than any of our other defensemen. Where he looked to me like he had a problem was along the walls, and as you say, it wasn't necessarily that he was outmuscled. He didn't seem to be able to figure out how to position himself to win board battles; he was always on the wrong side of the puck and had no leverage to keep possession. All during the season, when Carlson or Niskanen had the puck along the boards a lot of times the opponents would lurk, hoping to pick off an errant pass -- and we saw Niskanen and Carlson make plenty of them. When Bowey had the puck along the boards the closest opponent always engaged him immediately to strip the puck away.
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Boweys problems getting the puck out if the zone weren't because he can't make the pass. He just wasn't quick enough in his decision making. Being paired with Orpik didn't really help him. I saw too many times during the regular season when Bowey had the puck in the defensive zone corner and Orpik was standing in the opposite faceoff circle around 60 feet away. Bowey was forced to eat it. I like Bowey better than Djoos. I don't really think either are ready for the NHL playoffs. I do think Bowey is going to be a good dman in this league in the near future.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Saturday April 21, 2018, 10:48:52 PM Eastern --- Boweys problems getting the puck out if the zone weren't because he can't make the pass. He just wasn't quick enough in his decision making. Being paired with Orpik didn't really help him. I saw too many times during the regular season when Bowey had the puck in the defensive zone corner and Orpik was standing in the opposite faceoff circle around 60 feet away. Bowey was forced to eat it. I like Bowey better than Djoos. I don't really think either are ready for the NHL playoffs. I do think Bowey is going to be a good dman in this league in the near future.
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Regardless, we need DefenseMEN. . .not more and more of the oh-so-trendy fourth forwards to move the puck to the other team.
Pucktothehead:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Monday April 23, 2018, 08:18:33 AM Eastern ---Regardless, we need DefenseMEN. . .not more and more of the oh-so-trendy fourth forwards to move the puck to the other team.
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I’m afraid you are going to have to wait for that to come back around. If it ever does. Having several defensive physical Dmen has gone the way of the enforcer. It’s all about speed and transition these days and it wins (see Pittsburgh Penguins). Until a team wins it all with brute force nothing will change.
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