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The ‘23-‘24 boredom thread.. no square poop allowed
Mickstix:
--- Quote from: justwincaps on Monday March 18, 2024, 12:22:29 PM Eastern ---
But yesterday was trash.
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Best short track race in years, maybe decades!! Hope they don't change a thing and let teams adjust to the tire wear! (Doubtful, they'll probably come with a tire they can run all 500 laps on next) :snicker:
justwincaps:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Monday March 18, 2024, 03:48:31 PM Eastern ---
Best short track race in years, maybe decades!! Hope they don't change a thing and let teams adjust to the tire wear! (Doubtful, they'll probably come with a tire they can run all 500 laps on next) :snicker:
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Naw, that was trash. There's been a couple of night races in the last few years [Hamlin vs Chase and Harvick vs Chase] that were better than yesterday Only 5 drivers on the lead lap when the race ended? [First time that's happened in decades].
You're right though in that there's no chance that Goodyear doesn't address the tire wear. I think they had the right idea when they asked Goodyear to bring a tire that will wear down more than the tires in the past; they just went overboard.
The best part of the race was seeing Bristol without the dirt. Cute concept and a throwback to NASCAR's dirt track history, but Bristol is such an awesome track it doesn't need gimmickry.
Just to annoy the non-NASCAR fans, what's your thoughts on the road courses and the street racing? It's taken a while, but I am warming up to drivers having to turn left AND right. Watkins Glen and Sonoma bring out a different skillset, as does the ROVAL and Indy road course. The street race in Chicago was a disaster last year but that can be blamed on the weather. It'll be interesting to see how it goes this year.
Mickstix:
Im a fan of turning right, just not as often as nascar has adopted. Give me Sonoma, The Glen and like a Road Atlanta, Road America or Canada Tire and Im good. The roval is criminal imo, as it takes away the fall 500 at Charlotte and is basically a go-kart/miata mx5 track. COTA is an F1 track that I don't particularly care for due to huge run off zones everywhere. Chicago will be a follow the leader spectacle, unless it rains every race.. (then again, with this nextgen car, that's pretty much all the RC's.)
Would much rather see them back at Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, Nashville Fairgrounds, Chicagoland, Dover a 2nd date, etc.
But yea, Im an old school short track, save your stuff to make it to the end, style of racing fan. Be it brakes, motors, tires, fuel. Today's normal -every lap is a qualifying lap- doesn't do much for me. Nothing bums me out more than seeing those brake rotors glowing bright red from lap 10 on and rarely/never even a brake or tire failure.
alta:
That’s carbon fiber brakes. They have to be hot to work well, and they last longer.
Street racing can work given the right circuit. But I haven’t seen one yet for nascar. Monaco is the only good one I know of. I don’t mind a few road races mixed in to turning left all the time. But the roval, street racing, hub mount wheels, trans axle, electronics, all are trying to attract the F1/Indy car fan while alienating the nascar fan. If they are running tech the average fan can’t afford and doesn’t understand they lose the average fan. I get going to overhead cam motors, and even fuel injection to a point. The rest is just dumb. TV ratings and race attendance the last 10 years shows it. NASCAR did get a boost during covid because they were the only game on the continent, but that boost is petering off.
The cookie cutter mile and a half’s didn’t help either. The Indy oval is completely different from Daytona or Dega. Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing a couple more tracks like Richmond. About 3/4 to a mile. The car has to corner well and accelerate well to do well.
Mickstix:
Nascar still uses cast iron rotors. But these (Cup) rotors are huge due to the 18" wheel/brake package.
They have Iowa. Basically a carbon copy of RIR. Just not enough stands/facility (apparently) to support a Cup race.
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